When is a law not a law? When it is not actually passed.
Have you heard about this abomination - the Slaughter Solution?
House Rules Chairman Representative Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) has created a privision that Nancy Pelosi loves. It says that they don't actually have to pass HR 3590. They only have to say that they passed it, and then they can send it to the President to become law.
Let me try that again. The can "deem" (Pelosi's term) that the bill is passed without ever holding a formal vote.
What an appropriate name "Slaughter." We will just slaughter the Constitutional provisions of how a bill becomes law.
This way, none of the Dems who are supporting the bill - in direct opposition to the will of their constituents and the rest of the country - would ever be tagged with voting for its passage.
If this is allowed to happen, we will have lost our ability to be represented. Congress will no longer be accountable to anyone. The Speaker of the House will be giving the President a run for his money on who weilds the most power.
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And my Ayn Rand quote becomes even more relevant! A little bit more each day.
This is one of those scariest weeks I have had to live through in my life. I have seen combat and this scares me more!
Steve - this tactic has been used several times before, including in 1933 under Roosevelt. Most recently it was used in 2005 to increase the authorization for the national debt. It has never been used for anything of this scale and magnitude or to change the basic structure of the U.S. Interestingly, both Pelosi and Slaughter wrote amicus briefs challenging the 2005 use of it. BTW - I am of the opinion that resorting to a self-executing rule is reprehensible, demonstrates a complete lack of character and that any one of any party that votes yes for one should be black balled from ever serving in any government position again.
I believe Obama has already assured himself of being a one term president so as a socialist what does he have to loose.
Brian - I agree. Combat has a sense of clarity that is frequently missing in government.
Mike and Steve -The Constitution does provide that each House may determine their own rules for their proceedings. Although the commentators have not said anything yet, in addition to possible cover to members who do not want to say they voted for the Senate bill (which make no sense to me), I think this is a way for the House of Representatives to hold the Senate's feet to the fire on the changes the House leadership wanted in the Senate Bill. My argument would be that the bill is not passed by both houses in the same form - but whose counting these days.
The real problem with the procedure here is that they did not use the conference committee process to reconcile the differences in the bills passed by the House and the Senate. They knew they couldn't get it passed - which shows the level of corruption at play here.
It has long been an axiom of our system of government that you do not want to see the process for making sausage or for making laws.
Final thought - what is the takeover of the entire market for student loans by the government doing in this bill ?
Horsepuckey.
This is the most amazing things I've ever seen. It's pretty terrifying.
Steve,
They truly do think their constituents are too stupid to know what they're doing.
Rich
Jay,
Nibble, nibble, gulp. :)
Steve
Brian,
It is scary. They won't stop at anything less that getting their own way :)
Steve
Mike,
Hear, hear. Quite well said. :)
Steve
I know that it has been done before... but it is amazing how the Democrats are grabbing at EVERY possible trick they can find in order to pass this one bill. We need to turn those people out.
Steve,
The visible appropriatness of the name is stunning. It is self-explanatory
thanks for the education
Terrifying is a pretty apt term for how I feel about this.
Forcing the entire country (except the political ELETISTS) into purchasing healthcare is not Constitutional.
Pushing legislation through without having the EXACT SAME BILL passed by both the House and the Senate is not Constitutional. (just because the Repubs did it, doesn't make it right)
We have to get these evil people out of OUR PUBLIC BUILDINGS!!!
Lane,
How about a year 2010 cooling off period? Put it aside and do something else. :)
Steve
Jon,
The more we know, the less power they have. :)
Steve
Georgia,
You are right. Maybe we disband the current Congress. :)
Steve
Pretty interesting. I know that all stops seem to be out to pass this.
Ted - I understand that both the house and senate get to write their own rules. It still does not change my opinion of those that resort to this procedural B.S. hack to pass a bill that the American public has overwhelmingly stated that do not want.
At the next election will they just deem themselves the winner? After all, they shouldn't have to concern themselves with the will of the little people!
This is just the beginning. Wait until they get to immigration reform. Once they push that through they will have 20 million new voters so our votes really won't matter. We are in big trouble!
Steve,
This is really showing their true colors. :)
Steve
John,
That's one explanation. :)
Steve
Ted,
While the House can make it own rules, how can one of them be to negate what it is charged to do? :)
Steve
Karen,
I would agree. :)
Steve
Rich,
I think it's more of a case of them just not caring what we think. :)
Steve
Mike,
Agreed. :)
Steve
Jon,
They would if they could. Let's deem them losers already and move on. :)
Steve
Kim,
I think you are on target here. :)
Steve
I'm going to consider "deemed" clients and "deemed" leases if this passes....maybe spend some "deemed" income!!!
Wallace,
All good ideas. :)
Steve